Opinion about FTB

[Burnacid]

So we change the server now for a good time.
And if i need to make conclusions then no one likes it.
Server is empty all day.

I accept why ryl change it up but to my opinion this doesn't work either.
So tell me what you thing.

[Legal User]

Tekkit maybe have bugs and some things are "OP" but it is up to the players who play the server if they want to go the OP way first or if they want to take it slow and use Ic2. The thing about half the glitches is that like Markus has said to ryladine said (Or at least said to me) is that things can be nerfed in the config files. I would like it if Markus helps out so we can have a different topic on the comrades TS.

[Wazzy]

FTB is up to date and less buggy but it's missing something. I don't get that special feeling in it, as if I'm going to achieve something big. There's no drive when I'm playing it. I can't help but feel lethargic when I spawn in. Tekkit kept me going with the hope I would actually do something. Yeah it was a bit buggy and out of date but by no means did that ruin it so much so that it wasn't enjoyably. Tekkit has things that allow you to make a wonderful base with great details and full of magnificent machinery yet FTB lacks certain flavours. To be honest, I would much rather revert back to Tekkit and not ever complain about the bugs than become uninterested in the tasteless world of FTB.

[Pope Marcus III]

Well it has thaumcraft which im a master but i dont really care.

[DaveTheHuman]

Just because you can't massively produce diamonds out of nothing doesn't make it bland. Honestly, I hate EE. It takes all the fun out of the game. The only thing you have to do is set up a cobblestone generator connected to a condenser and you get stacks of diamonds. You don't have to work hard to actually achieve anything. IC2 is relatively useless, because who needs to double your ore output when you have infinite stock of everything? The only thing it is good for is Nano and Quantum Armor, which are very easy to produce because of EE, yet way too powerful for the effort you need to put in using EE. I like FTB because I actually get to go mining once in a while. And don't say "lul jst dnt use ee" because if I don't, anyone I meet will have WAY higher grade armor than I do because they use EE, and will most likely kill me, hence making it impossible to PVP.

[Phoenix]

I'd be happy to go back to using Tekkit (FTB doesn't have the good feeling), but none of our opinion's matter that much, Ryladine did say that the server stability comes first, then the community.

[Pope Marcus III]

(11-18-2012 08:14 PM)DaveTheHuman Wrote:  Just because you can't massively produce diamonds out of nothing doesn't make it bland. Honestly, I hate EE. It takes all the fun out of the game. The only thing you have to do is set up a cobblestone generator connected to a condenser and you get stacks of diamonds. You don't have to work hard to actually achieve anything. IC2 is relatively useless, because who needs to double your ore output when you have infinite stock of everything? The only thing it is good for is Nano and Quantum Armor, which are very easy to produce because of EE, yet way too powerful for the effort you need to put in using EE. I like FTB because I actually get to go mining once in a while. And don't say "lul jst dnt use ee" because if I don't, anyone I meet will have WAY higher grade armor than I do because they use EE, and will most likely kill me, hence making it impossible to PVP.

You do relise that Dark and red matter armor dont make you Invincible the red matter reduces damage by 90% and dark by around 60% so you can kill them with a diamond sword its easy

[DaveTheHuman]

(11-18-2012 08:17 PM)Pope Marcus III Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 08:14 PM)DaveTheHuman Wrote:  Just because you can't massively produce diamonds out of nothing doesn't make it bland. Honestly, I hate EE. It takes all the fun out of the game. The only thing you have to do is set up a cobblestone generator connected to a condenser and you get stacks of diamonds. You don't have to work hard to actually achieve anything. IC2 is relatively useless, because who needs to double your ore output when you have infinite stock of everything? The only thing it is good for is Nano and Quantum Armor, which are very easy to produce because of EE, yet way too powerful for the effort you need to put in using EE. I like FTB because I actually get to go mining once in a while. And don't say "lul jst dnt use ee" because if I don't, anyone I meet will have WAY higher grade armor than I do because they use EE, and will most likely kill me, hence making it impossible to PVP.

You do relise that Dark and red matter armor dont make you Invincible the red matter reduces damage by 90% and dark by around 60% so you can kill them with a diamond sword its easy

Yeah, because I'll be able to hit them 10 times before they 1-shot me with any EE weapon.

[Pope Marcus III]

(11-18-2012 08:19 PM)DaveTheHuman Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 08:17 PM)Pope Marcus III Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 08:14 PM)DaveTheHuman Wrote:  Just because you can't massively produce diamonds out of nothing doesn't make it bland. Honestly, I hate EE. It takes all the fun out of the game. The only thing you have to do is set up a cobblestone generator connected to a condenser and you get stacks of diamonds. You don't have to work hard to actually achieve anything. IC2 is relatively useless, because who needs to double your ore output when you have infinite stock of everything? The only thing it is good for is Nano and Quantum Armor, which are very easy to produce because of EE, yet way too powerful for the effort you need to put in using EE. I like FTB because I actually get to go mining once in a while. And don't say "lul jst dnt use ee" because if I don't, anyone I meet will have WAY higher grade armor than I do because they use EE, and will most likely kill me, hence making it impossible to PVP.

You do relise that Dark and red matter armor dont make you Invincible the red matter reduces damage by 90% and dark by around 60% so you can kill them with a diamond sword its easy

Yeah, because I'll be able to hit them 10 times before they 1-shot me with any EE weapon.

The only wep tha tone hits is the KATAR but its really late in EE2 to make

[Xean0]

I personally agree with Dave, if we go back to tekkit just get rid of EE, then people actually have to work for that redmatter armor. Btw fuck quantum keep that shit out.

[Gun killer]

FTB is boring.
Tekkit was 10x better.

[Pope Marcus III]

Like i told Rylandine hundreds of times you can Edit the files to Nerf items Such as armor Like you can make the Qauntum armor not make you Invincible Or make Gem armor not have certain abilities I.E the Big explosion caused by the chest piece. I did it for a server a couple mouths ago when they contacted me

[Ryladine]

Its not that simple. There are NO "configs" for the things you are talking about, its all hardcoded.

Regardless, we will not be switching back to tekkit. I won't keep fixing it, when its issues are all because its badly out of date because they don't have the modder's permission to use their mods.

If you don't want FTB fine. I'll just take it to vanilla bukkit. I chose FTB because it was closest to what you wanted, but the other half of the community wanted vanilla, I can go make them happy instead.

[Burnacid]

(11-18-2012 08:14 PM)DaveTheHuman Wrote:  Just because you can't massively produce diamonds out of nothing doesn't make it bland. Honestly, I hate EE. It takes all the fun out of the game. The only thing you have to do is set up a cobblestone generator connected to a condenser and you get stacks of diamonds. You don't have to work hard to actually achieve anything. IC2 is relatively useless, because who needs to double your ore output when you have infinite stock of everything? The only thing it is good for is Nano and Quantum Armor, which are very easy to produce because of EE, yet way too powerful for the effort you need to put in using EE. I like FTB because I actually get to go mining once in a while. And don't say "lul jst dnt use ee" because if I don't, anyone I meet will have WAY higher grade armor than I do because they use EE, and will most likely kill me, hence making it impossible to PVP.

Funny that you were 20 times more active on tekkit then that your are on FTB

[DaveTheHuman]

(11-18-2012 09:31 PM)burnacid Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 08:14 PM)DaveTheHuman Wrote:  Just because you can't massively produce diamonds out of nothing doesn't make it bland. Honestly, I hate EE. It takes all the fun out of the game. The only thing you have to do is set up a cobblestone generator connected to a condenser and you get stacks of diamonds. You don't have to work hard to actually achieve anything. IC2 is relatively useless, because who needs to double your ore output when you have infinite stock of everything? The only thing it is good for is Nano and Quantum Armor, which are very easy to produce because of EE, yet way too powerful for the effort you need to put in using EE. I like FTB because I actually get to go mining once in a while. And don't say "lul jst dnt use ee" because if I don't, anyone I meet will have WAY higher grade armor than I do because they use EE, and will most likely kill me, hence making it impossible to PVP.

Funny that you were 20 times more active on tekkit then that your are on FTB

1. I get on daily.
2. I'm having much more fun without EE.
3. The reason I'm not on CONSTANTLY is becuase I'm in my 1.2.5 Thaumcraft world because with no one else on, it's esentially singleplayer.

[Legal User]

You know what Ryladine, I am just going to put this out plan in simple. You may have an image for the SRH Minecraft server. It will be altered by a mass amount of things. People who do play the server would want EE to be installed because they don't know much about it or they cannot use the other stuff because it crashes them but nut up and be more like Drake and deal with random things crashing the server and fix them instead of pussying out and just going the short way. There is also another option. You can hand it over to a person who wants to or knows more about it than you do and is more accommodating than you are. The only person that I saw that pointed out that they wanted a vanilla server was nukkette. Hell you can make your own mod pack and host that so no matter it will work 100% of the time with people on the server. People liked Tekkit even when the only people who played was Markus, Spy?, one other guy that I never learned the name of, and I we were happy. Hell even Calyx played sometimes, Clutch came on and played for a bit or judge the damage to the server. It would have gotten bigger if he advertised some more and I can do that for him. If you want I will with the help of markus and he agreed that he would help.

~Done.

[Inferno IV]

FTB + tekkit - EE = full server all day!

[Ryladine]

(11-18-2012 09:47 PM)Legal User Wrote:  You know what Ryladine, I am just going to put this out plan in simple. You may have an image for the SRH Minecraft server. It will be altered by a mass amount of things. People who do play the server would want EE to be installed because they don't know much about it or they cannot use the other stuff because it crashes them but nut up and be more like Drake and deal with random things crashing the server and fix them instead of pussying out and just going the short way. There is also another option. You can hand it over to a person who wants to or knows more about it than you do and is more accommodating than you are. The only person that I saw that pointed out that they wanted a vanilla server was nukkette. Hell you can make your own mod pack and host that so no matter it will work 100% of the time with people on the server. People liked Tekkit even when the only people who played was Markus, Spy?, one other guy that I never learned the name of, and I we were happy. Hell even Calyx played sometimes, Clutch came on and played for a bit or judge the damage to the server. It would have gotten bigger if he advertised some more and I can do that for him. If you want I will with the help of markus and he agreed that he would help.

~Done.

So, the vote between tekkit and Vanilla bukkit that went 10-13 didn't happen huh? Tekkit won that vote by a small margin. I'm trying to make you all happy but I won't spend hours fixing things that has already been fixed in updated versions of the mods.

You want someone else to run it? You find a member of this community with more experience running MC who hasn't already given it a try and given up because of the fucked up attitudes like that one and I'll hand it over.

I have several years experience running MC servers of various sorts, I know full damn well what I'm doing. The difference is that this community doesn't want a stable server, they want what they fucking well want and to hell whether its possible to maintain.

Until you can do a better job than I have you are welcome to go play the comrade server, that is if you can get in, I seem to remember you saying you were going to do that anyway. Piss off or shut the fuck up unless you think you can do better and maintain it properly without impacting any of the other servers that run on this dedi. I'm trying to keep this server going for those of you who want mc.

There's a huge difference between me and drake, he can code for the platform he is running. I FUCKING CAN'T. I make do with what I have, but despite asking for a java coder none came forward, that means there are none in the community I can work with to fix things the same way drake does. You want to spend the hours I spend combing the internet for fixes to bugs that have already been fixed on the updated mods? Go right the fuck ahead.

By the way, another difference happens to be DRAKE CODED 90% OF WHATS ON THE DAMN SERVER HE MANAGES. HE KNOWS WHERE THE CODE IS, AND WHAT COULD BE BROKEN, AS WELL AS HOW TO MANUALLY FUCKING FIX IT.

[Hail]

all i care about is being able to sethome

thats the only reason why i dont play

[Ryladine]

Sethome was bukkit, I'm trying to find a replacement, but again without a java coder its not really happening.