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**Bee Onette** · (This post was last modified: 01-26-2013 07:02 PM by Bee Onette.)

Your RP Name: Bee Onette

Their RP Name: (Jake Michaels)
Their SteamID: (STEAM_0:0:18139564)

Date of Incident: January 26, 2013
Time of Incident: 01:00
Time-zone: GMT 0.0

Please explain exactly what happened from start to finish:
The time is estimated because this particular problem started earlier and continued to happen for around an hour until it got so chaotic that the administrators pretty much blocked off the entire area for raiding. There were at first around six CP, but after the first raid two quit, so the remaining four (including Jake Micheals, the moderator) continued to raid us constantly.

So it started with the CP. We were UMLF, minding our own business in the blue warehouse. Church Tryhard was building the base and we were kinda goofing off when multiple of our gang were Warranted for illegal weapons.

Mass confusion- the ones who had claimed the weapons inside hadn't stepped outside because Church had only JUST made the fading door buttons. We were all chilling- hadn't even shot off any rounds yet. So the CP busted in and immediately began mowing down everyone. I'm almost positive I saw cops we'd just killed coming back, but I couldn't get a good look at the names without getting shot at.

I told Ryladine we were havin' some issues with metagaming in a PM. He told me to wait til it happens again and PM him, so I did. This time, they busted in on a search warrant and started firing. The worst part is that it was looked over by (in-game) Jake Michaels or whatever his name was (I have dealt with so many CP tonight I've lost track of their names)- a mod.

Anyways, we are getting reset after they rammed our walls and shit down and they raid us AGAIN. They literally come in and start shooting on a search. We don't lose as many people because they backed off quickly- we continue building and chilling.

At one point we invite a weapons dealer into our place and the cops once again invade, killing the weapons dealer outright. He comes back and we buy a shipment and they invade again.

There were a couple of thief raids, including one where an invisible thief raided and I killed him, and during said thief's raid another thief camped in a corner and shot anybody who passed by- new life or not.

All in all it was a shitload of chaos and a certain mod overlooked it because he was in with the police- he defended them when I questioned him. Ryladine joined us later and if he doesn't want to vouch then Grizz or Church can- they were active targets of pretty much every assault.

There were some instances where they wouldn't even bother with a search warrant- they'd bust down our shit, kill the people in the main atrium, then get a search and continue.

Now when I asked the mod about coming in and shooting, he said random checks were illegal. That's fine. But coming in without a warrant, slamming down props, shooting anybody they saw in the building- no, that's some bullshit.

TL,DR; The CP metagamed, abused, and generally failrp'd and nothing was done about it.

Additional Evidence:
We had MULTIPLE witnesses. Grizz Lantrem (I forget his Steamname), Church Tryhard, (later) Ryladine, witnessed multiple raids almost back to back. Check all the deaths in the gang. UMLF.

Burnacid · 01-26-2013, 12:42 PM

Improper format, i need steam ID's.

24 hours to fix it

**Bee Onette** · (This post was last modified: 01-26-2013 07:05 PM by Bee Onette.)

Fixed- I listed the mod who took part in it. Considering there were six for some raids and four for others I can't determine who the others were. Logs can though. All I can say is that he was in the CP for every raid and defended them when I told him to stop meta-gaming and tell his force to stop breaking nlr. The police who set the warrants couldn't be determined- Ryladine said the logs couldn't help us there.

ChuckTesta · 01-28-2013, 04:09 AM

I was their and remember this.

Wazzy · 01-28-2013, 12:19 PM

'There were some instances where they wouldn't even bother with a search warrant- they'd bust down our shit, kill the people in the main atrium, then get a search and continue.' Not possible to bust anything down without a warrant.

**Bee Onette** · (This post was last modified: 01-28-2013 02:11 PM by Bee Onette.)

(01-28-2013 12:19 PM)Wazzy Wrote: 'There were some instances where they wouldn't even bother with a search warrant- they'd bust down our shit, kill the people in the main atrium, then get a search and continue.' Not possible to bust anything down without a warrant.

Well there were plenty of times that our door flew open and not a warrant had been seen. I am still rather new to DarkRP so maybe I missed a detail or something, but if you check the logs, in that hour there are many killings between the police and the gangsters, and the worst part is that we hardly left the base. We were continuously trying to rebuild. Often what would happen is that they'd raid, knock a few walls down, get killed, come back and kill as many of us as possible (I mean I killed three of four with my SG552, how in the hell did two more come in thirty seconds later?), and leave. Then Church would take down our stuff and attempt at rebuilding. I don't think we ever got to enjoy a completed base, and he had it advance duped. In this instance I believe they were using the logic 'a friend survived so he can tell us all to come back', the same thing the mobsters try to do with their boss during raids on my shop as a Trader.

Burnacid · (This post was last modified: 01-28-2013 02:36 PM by Burnacid.)

So let me guess what happened.

2 of the gangsters were sniping people on the street with SG552
Cops raid and start shooting right away because they were shot at.

this isn't a guess this is what the logs show. A person called Erik Madsen shot and killed 45 people with a SG552 (sniper).
Jack Dorian shot 12 with an SG552.

**Bee Onette** · 01-28-2013, 04:26 PM

So the logs show the exact position they're shooting from apparently? Ask Ryladine. They invaded for absolutely no reason, back to back.

Burnacid · 01-28-2013, 05:27 PM

Then why do you report he would have handled it right?

**Bee Onette** · 01-28-2013, 06:11 PM

He was afk a lot of the time. And why don't you ask him? It almost sounds like you're suggesting I'm lying. Let's not assume things, you should know well what happens when people do that.

Burnacid · 01-28-2013, 07:47 PM

I didn't assume anything...
I find it highly impossible that 2 admins overlooked it, one of which is a EC and didn't do anything. Beside that the logs don't show anything but 2 snipers killing alot of CP. whether they were in the base idk. Now have you any prove. Because from now if i have to only base it on the logs then nothing will happen. If this happened for over an hour you had plenty of time to get me some real evidence and report it to the admins online. You apparently didn't or they found it to be perfectly fine.

I've asked both already, we have to wait for that. In the mean time you get me some evidence your self if you can.

**Bee Onette** · 01-28-2013, 08:04 PM

I gave you evidence. Go ask Church or Dorian. We have witnesses. Hell, Testa even agreed. Ryladine was there for the end of it, so he can vouch for that at least. What you should NOT do is say that nothing happened because only two snipers killed people. Both Dorian and Madsen took part in the raids, so why not ask them? That was probably where most of their kills came from.

Fix the problem. Don't act like it never happened because the mod who took part in it was in the CP, breaking NLR and the other was AFK.

Burnacid · (This post was last modified: 01-28-2013 08:08 PM by Burnacid.)

I don't have any of them on my steam list, you have evidence present it, don't order me that isn't my job.
Just one person that says i was there is nothing.

**Bee Onette** · 01-28-2013, 08:25 PM

Then close this, I'm withdrawing the whole thing. At this point you're wasting my time. Next time I'll screencap it, get it fucking notified, signed by the President, then delivered your way.