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**Reagent** · (This post was last modified: 02-02-2013 06:13 AM by Frostwitch.)

Your RP Name: Reagent Baggins

Their RP Name: Ryladine Vividari
Their SteamID: STEAM_0:1:19025450

Date of Incident: February 1, 2013
Time of Incident: 20:14
Time-zone: GMT -8.0

Please explain exactly what happened from start to finish:
Alright, so i was mugging a citizien and Ryladine starts RDPing me, so i shoot him. I then have the citizen and ryladine trying to punch me and i shot them both. Ryladine then tells a gangster to kill me, and the gangster shoots me with his AK-47. I then say in /ooc a EC is promoting Hitmanning thats cool. He replies and says [23:16:30] (OOC) Ryladine Vividari: I got someome to aid me, doesn't matter who it is if I ask for help

By that logic i can ask anyone i want to help me raid a place.

Additional Evidence:
logs

Ryladine · (This post was last modified: 02-02-2013 05:24 AM by Ryladine.)

You run into a bar, and pull a gun, you then proceed to point the gun at the crowd (Six to seven people in the same room as your "mugging".) , scream a name and an order to throw down money.

I assault you because I fear for my life (Your thief rp is so shitty you would have killed all of us as "witnesses".) you run, the entire crowd chases you trying to beat you to death. I scream kill him, a gangster from the crowd pulls an ak and kills you.

And no, if I'm running through the streets after a guy shooting at us and ask for help, actively trying to get people involved in our protection from you (an idiot maniac who just barged into a crowded club and started robbing people) then if someone helps (since you STILL had the gun out) its not rdm.

**Reagent** · (This post was last modified: 02-02-2013 05:39 AM by Reagent.)

(02-02-2013 05:22 AM)Ryladine Wrote: You run into a bar, and pull a gun, you then proceed to point the gun at the crowd (Six to seven people in the same room as your "mugging".) , scream a name and an order to throw down money.

I assault you because I fear for my life (Your thief rp is so shitty you would have killed all of us as "witnesses".) you run, the entire crowd chases you trying to beat you to death. I scream kill him, a gangster from the crowd pulls an ak and kills you.

And no, if I'm running through the streets after a guy shooting at us and ask for help, actively trying to get people involved in our protection from you (an idiot maniac who just barged into a crowded club and started robbing people) then if someone helps (since you STILL had the gun out) its not rdm.

That's complete bullshit, Only you and Phillip were the ones chasing me and then there was a gangster who was on the streets. The gangster said "You need help?" you said "YES KILL THIS GUY PLEASE". He pulls out a ak-47 and kills me

"I assault you because I fear for my life (Your thief rp is so shitty you would have killed all of us as "witnesses".)"

That would mean I'm allowed to kill anyone i want that commits a crime in front of me. But sadly, that's not how SRH works, you have to be a CP to enforce the laws, and at the time you were a citizen.

Ryladine · 02-02-2013, 05:42 AM

Reagent, you kill witnesses. All thieves on our server kill witnesses, you pointed the gun towards me, I assaulted you. Get over it.

There were around four people chasing you, I assumed they all came from the bar since everyone came out of it when you ran away. Yes, I shouted to kill you, and no I'm not going to punish someone from the bar you just pointed a gun at for kill you.

Now, had you bothered trying to go through the other admins on the server instead of pissing yourself you could have made an rdm report and gotten that user punished if he deserved it, instead you've chosen to make an abuse report because I chased you and told them to kill you. Your logic is as bad as your roleplay.

**Reagent** · 02-02-2013, 05:43 AM

(02-02-2013 05:42 AM)Ryladine Wrote: Reagent, you kill witnesses. All thieves on our server kill witnesses, you pointed the gun towards me, I assaulted you. Get over it.

There were around four people chasing you, I assumed they all came from the bar since everyone came out of it when you ran away. Yes, I shouted to kill you, and no I'm not going to punish someone from the bar you just pointed a gun at for kill you.

Now, had you bothered trying to go through the other admins on the server instead of pissing yourself you could have made an rdm report and gotten that user punished if he deserved it, instead you've chosen to make an abuse report because I chased you and told them to kill you. Your logic is as bad as your roleplay.

That's metagaming then, how would you know I was a thief?

Ryladine · 02-02-2013, 05:46 AM

Because you fucking pointed a gun at us and screamed to drop money?

**Reagent** · 02-02-2013, 05:48 AM

(02-02-2013 05:46 AM)Ryladine Wrote: Because you fucking pointed a gun at us and screamed to drop money?

I only pointed the gun at the Trader, and i told him to drop his money. If you somehow though i was talking to you, when i wasn't even looking at you, you're fucking stupid.

Ryladine · 02-02-2013, 05:49 AM

Reagent, you were looking right at ME when you said it, you may have been looking over me, you may have been looking beside me, but from my point of view the gun was aimed at me. You said a name, that was the only indication you might not have been mugging me at all. I'm not going to put up with someone pointing a gun at me no matter who they are talking to.

**Reagent** · (This post was last modified: 02-02-2013 05:51 AM by Reagent.)

(02-02-2013 05:42 AM)Ryladine Wrote: Now, had you bothered trying to go through the other admins on the server instead of pissing yourself you could have made an rdm report and gotten that user punished if he deserved it, instead you've chosen to make an abuse report because I chased you and told them to kill you. Your logic is as bad as your roleplay.

I decided to make a abuse report on you because you basically hired a hitman (W/o Paying) to kill me.

(02-02-2013 05:49 AM)Ryladine Wrote: I'm not going to put up with someone pointing a gun at me no matter who they are talking to.

You're suppose to warn someone to put their gun down before you stop attacking them.

Ryladine · 02-02-2013, 05:53 AM

The fuck I'm going to warn someone when I'm unarmed. I'm going to try to beat the hell out of you before you can react, there isn't a single rule that says I have to. Now stop making things up.

How exactly did I, while running through the streets chasing you, the failed robber "Hire" anyone by screaming to kill you?

**Reagent** · 02-02-2013, 05:55 AM

(02-02-2013 05:53 AM)Ryladine Wrote: The fuck I'm going to warn someone when I'm unarmed. I'm going to try to beat the hell out of you before you can react, there isn't a single rule that says I have to. Now stop making things up.

I've been told by admins that i have to tell someone to move their gun out of my face before killing them. If this is incorrect, I'm going to start killing alot more people who aim a gun at me.

(02-02-2013 05:53 AM)Ryladine Wrote: How exactly did I, while running through the streets chasing you, the failed robber "Hire" anyone by screaming to kill you?

You specifically told the gangster to kill me...

Ryladine · 02-02-2013, 05:58 AM

I specifically told whoever asked to kill you, I didn't bother turning around to see who was talking. Nor should I have considering you were still pointing a gun at us.

**Reagent** · 02-02-2013, 05:59 AM

(02-02-2013 05:58 AM)Ryladine Wrote: I specifically told whoever asked to kill you, I didn't bother turning around to see who was talking. Nor should I have considering you were still pointing a gun at us.

You didn't bother to see what his name was on the microphone tab (lower bottom corner)? That seems hard to believe.

Ryladine · 02-02-2013, 06:02 AM

Nope, hard to believe or not I didn't bother looking, I was focusing on where you were going.

**Reagent** · 02-02-2013, 06:04 AM

Then how did you know there was (supposedly) 4 people follow me from the bar.

Ryladine · 02-02-2013, 06:06 AM

Because I could see them on the edges of my screen.... there was a mob chasing you, not one or two people dangling behind....

**Reagent** · (This post was last modified: 02-02-2013 06:11 AM by Reagent.)

(02-02-2013 06:06 AM)Ryladine Wrote: Because I could see them on the edges of my screen.... there was a mob chasing you, not one or two people dangling behind....

[Image: ea23f86d844f45daf9eec51115ba4dd5.png?1359785845]

. = Trader/Ryladine
(.) = Gangster with ak-47
* = Me

I was running backwards the entire time, There was only 2 people from the bar and 1 gangster watching this occur.

Frostwitch · 02-02-2013, 06:13 AM

I'll claim this.

While hitmanning is expressly forbidden, Ryladine never paid the gangster to kill you, and therefore he was not technically hired.

No punishment will be issued.